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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:28 am 
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Marc, my sorry computer won't let me load your video out of PhotoBucket (one link, thru another link). Others might be experiencing the same problem.

Can you simply post the video here on the Thread, so we can access it directly?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:04 pm 
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Sure Frank, here is a direct link to the video:

http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/72Datsun240z/media/IMG_5457_zps2f84b05f.mp4.htmlhttp://s1277.photobucket.com/user/72Datsun240z/media/IMG_5457_zps2f84b05f.mp4.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:44 am 
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love the wheels.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:59 pm 
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I uploaded more pics of the car today to the photobucket site. Mostly of the undercarriage.

This is the photobucket link:

http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/72Datsun240z/library/

Here are a few pics:

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Over 30 new pics were added.

Thanks,
Marc

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:20 am 
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You need to re-think this.

When your kids are grown and off on their own, you'll have time to play with this car. AND it will be worth $50,000 by then, and be irreplaceable. Seriously, in 20 years you won't be able to find a solid 240Z like yours without spending 'starter house' money on it.

Consider this ~ if you sold the Z now, in a best case scenario you *might* get mid-$20k for it (improbable in the current market). How long do you think it would take you and your wife to blow $25,000 on your kids, your house, your vacation, their education, birthdays, etc? That money could be gone in months if not weeks. Then you'd have neither the Z nor the money; just 1,000 memories and a hole in your heart. Heck, I've watched guys I knew spend $25,000 reenlistment bonuses in a 4-day weekend (and not remember much of it come Tuesday morning).

And consider this ~ 20 years from now all today's Z experts will be gone. Vinny will be retired, and all the real mechanics like him. Many of us will be dead or too old to turn a wrench or even remember how to work on these cars. Ask yourself who will put an early 240Z together like yours is now, in 2034? Nobody. Today we have the greatest pipeline of aftermarket Z gear in the history of the car, but when nobody knows how to work on them anymore (and nobody buys all the Z gear), why should they keep making it?

This car is EARNING money by sitting in your garage. It's already worth more than you paid for it, and worth more than it cost you to rebuild it. True, it's not appreciating as quickly as an old Aston Martin or Ferrari might, but these cars cost $4,000 new, not $40,000. Your daily driver is losing $10/$20 value each week. This Z is GAINING $5/day.

There's nobody (NObody) who wouldn't want a Z. Young kids today are drooling over these cars because they represented the LAST FAST cars the common kid could work on. Fuel injection and computers complicated everything in the following decade, and the cars after that became made of PLASTIC. The Z is the MOST-POPULAR sports/GT car ever made, period. Baby Boomers love these cars because they remind them of their 20s and 30s, and because half of them owned one, or dated in one, or went to college in one, or met their wives in one, or always wanted one. Even women love the Z car because it gets them so much attention (trust me, that's TRUE).

And everyone wants a 'cheap' Z, which is RUST FREE, and mechanically sound. That's what I hear from every wanna-Z who contacts us. "Please keep your eyes open for a 240 for me? I don't care what it looks like, I just want it mechanically safe with a NO RUST body".

Marc, that's EXACTLY what you have here. And it took you a couple years and several thousand Dinaros to put it together. Along the way you've met maybe 200 new Z people, many of whom have become your friends. They've coached you and helped you and finally you've got a Series-II car which thinks it's a Series-1 car due to the performance upgrades you've put into it, but the 1972 body is stiffer and more rigid and quieter than the early cars and you have NO RUST.

HOW do you ever expect to duplicate that combination again, if you sell your Z??

When this auction works its way up to around $15,000 or $17,000 you're gonna run out of time or patience, or the stress of answering 100 questions each week will drive you nuts and you'll think "a bird in the hand" and finally say "SOLD!" and your beautiful car will be gone.....to some know-nothing kid who has more money than brains and watched Japanese street racers drift their Fairlady Zs in Tokyo on You Tube and thought it would be cool to own one of those 'pretty Z cars'. He'll wreck it and destroy all your hard work, and you'll spend his money in less time than you expect. The world will lose a Z car, your money will get spent, and then everybody has lost.

Then you'll come to us and NYZCC and ZCCR and say, "Hey guys, please help me find a rust-free S30 which is mechanically safe enough to drive RIGHT NOW. I don't care how it looks ~ I can paint it the way I want it over time".

My brother, speaking as someone who has once sold his Z and agonized for 23 miserable years before he found it and bought it back again, you and I need to sit down over a campfire and talk about this before you do something you can't reverse. :?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:57 am 
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PS Marc ~

I keep a FOR SALE sign in my 240Z which says I wouldn't sell my Z for a million bucks.
It's cute and it gets the point across that my Z is worth more to me than what anyone would be willing to pay for it.

But the dark truth of that sign is that I am a victim of 23 years of sorrow, grief and regret for having once sold my baby, and I know I will NEVER do that again. The fact that I found my Z and bought it back is nothing short of a miraculous redemption for me. It was a horrible mistake to ever let my car go in the first place, and I was haunted every day I was without it. I felt like a parent who had given up a kid for adoption because I wasn't able to feed and care for it.

These cars really do take on some supernatural kinship with their owners. I have talked to Z people who regret regret regret ever letting go of their first Z. Read some of our Club members' signatures on this website; many of them still faithfully list the VIN of their first Z car, owned and lost 30 or 40 years ago, and wistfully pledge they will never be forgotten.

Consider me like Jacob Marley, shaking my chains at you, Ebenezer Marc. I warn you of an unspeakable misery which I hope you never have to endure.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:41 am 
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Frank….shhhhhh!

I'm trying to sneak in there before the auction closes …dad and I need a 240Z in our lives…the Z31 has been a thing to bond over, now I want to cruiZe with him.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:11 am 
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Frank my car is amazing and I really appreciate your friendship.

Sometimes a man has got to do what a man has got to do.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:03 am 
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And I appreciate yours. So I will need pictures of you, because you're going to be a different man "Before" and "After" you sell your beautiful, functional, sound, rebuilt, fun Datsun 240Z. You're not just the owner of this car, you're the entrusted caretaker and curator for your piece of Z history.

Friends don't let friends sell S30s.

Filipe, if you ever wanted a 240Z, this is the best deal you can reasonably expect to find in our lifetimes. And you could consider it an investment, because someday Marc is going to come-to and want his car back. Meet in Stratford and examine this car.

And Marc, you'll have to think long and hard to explain to your kids why they didn't get to arrive at their Senior Prom in a unique S30.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:47 pm 
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Frank T wrote:
Filipe, if you ever wanted a 240Z, this is the best deal you can reasonably expect to find in our lifetimes.

^^^ :thumbs_up:

Watch out Marc! Frank's layin it on thick!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:55 pm 
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Watch out Marc! Frank's layin it on thick!


Porkbun, this is the same car from Back to the Future. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:57 am 
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I just showed the car in Stratford to a nice young man who drove down from Boston. I took him out for a nice ride. Lucky duck.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:20 pm 
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Looks like this car is going back to Cali.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:16 pm 
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Wow, someone got a pretty good deal on this….surprised it didn't go into the teens.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:18 pm 
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The market has spoken.

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